(;GM[1]FF[4]CA[UTF-8]AP[CGoban:3]ST[2]
RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[5400]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[2015 US Masters - Mark Lee (w) vs Chen Wang (b)]PW[Mark Lee]PB[Chen Wang]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2015-08-03]EV[2015 US Go Congress]RO[3]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to round 3 of the US Masters tournament for the US Go Congress in St Paul, Minnesota
weym [3k\]: mark lee is kingsman?
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;B[qd]C[pastlink [?\]: yes
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;W[dp]C[weym [3k\]: thx
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;B[cd]C[USGO1 [-\]: There is a live video stream on the AGA Youtube channel:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPdXdFIm9Q
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;W[qp]
;B[oc]
;W[ed]
;B[ec]
;W[fc]
;B[dc]
;W[gd]
;B[cf]
;W[kc]
;B[fq]C[mooooo [4k\]: mark lee super strong, great to see him in a serious game
iamnot10k [4k\]: I think the video stream don't need coordinations
anewtry [1d\]: channel not working?
RobertT [-\]: it actually very much does once the commentary starts
rubicon [4d\]: hey guys
rubicon [4d\]: cool game
LordRahl [1d\]: hi
anewtry [1d\]: ah ok its syays one hour later
rubicon [4d\]: i like b here but mark is so strong :P
RobertT [-\]: video stream should be working. try refreshing. if that doesn't work, idk
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;W[ip]C[anewtry [1d\]: i got it, something in my pc was blocking the stream that i noticed
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;B[nq]C[anewtry [1d\]: so the commentary will be in youtube?
YZ1509 [4d\]: doubt that
YZ1509 [4d\]: yesterday jenny shen did usgo10-account
rubicon [4d\]: there will be commentary on youtube by Jennie
rubicon [4d\]: but im not sure when it starts
anewtry [1d\]: so not on kgs like yesterday
YZ1509 [4d\]: mostly when the game is an hour in progress
rubicon [4d\]: right, so for now no but later yes
anewtry [1d\]: tkank you
USGO1 [-\]: for the latest pairings, results and game records, see the crosstabs section on the AGA website. US Masters here: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/173
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;W[lp]C[RobertT [-\]: the commentary on youtube will by done by haylee. it starts in 37 minutes
rubicon [4d\]: oh, thanks robert
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;B[qq]
;W[pq]
;B[pp]
;W[qr]
;B[rq]
;W[op]
;B[po]
;W[oq]
;B[rr]
;W[pm]
;B[on]
;W[np]
;B[om]C[iamnot10k [4k\]: cool game!
rubicon [4d\]: w is deciding between q9 and c6 ?
RobertT [-\]: so far, fairly calm game
rubicon [4d\]: or is there some other move?
kmr [1d\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/173 
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;W[rn]
;B[pk]C[rubicon [4d\]: oh wow, is s6 common?
RobertT [-\]: wow
iceweasel [-\]: getting interesting!
iamnot10k [4k\]: s6 surprise
skwisgaar [2d\]: i think b is better in this fight
RobertT [-\]: I thought I only saw s6 after q9
RobertT [-\]: but might be mis remembering
rubicon [4d\]: yeah i thought so too robert
rubicon [4d\]: maybe mark studied this and its a special or trick move
RobertT [-\]: or maybe he dun goofed
Laon [8k\]: is there a stream for marks game again?
rubicon [4d\]: yeah, its in the aga youtube channel
RobertT [-\]: www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPdXdFIm9Q
Laon [8k\]: thx
RobertT [-\]: np
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;W[pn]
;B[oo]
;W[rp]C[iceweasel [-\]: r5
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;B[qo]
;W[ro]
;B[pr]C[rubicon [4d\]: w has r1 s1 t3 to kill
rubicon [4d\]: but i guess not enough liberties for now
rubicon [4d\]: or does it even work at all?
RobertT [-\]: doesnt work
rubicon [4d\]: i see
rubicon [4d\]: so, w is in trouble then? :)
Balladeer [4d\]: hmm, if W s8 makes miai of p8 and r10 ?
ofbusy [-\]: you mean r1 p2?
flobby [-\]: only 2 boards today?
flobby [-\]: there were 7 yesterday....
USGO1 [-\]: most of our other game recorders are playing their own games in the Open
YZ1509 [4d\]: s6 felt like overplay
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;W[or]C[flobby [-\]: is there a way I can get to see ryan's game? maybe livestream or whatever
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;B[qs]
;W[rl]C[RobertT [-\]: very hard to find someone that knows enough about go to not mess up game recording... that also doesn't mind not playing in the tournament.
flobby [-\]: RobertT is a good candidate
RobertT [-\]: ya, I don't play go
USGO1 [-\]: This morning, Ryan Li is playing Michael Chen on board 8... its not being recorded
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;B[mo]C[rubicon [4d\]: o5 maybe?
rsun [4d\]: is Wang Chen an insei in China?
rubicon [4d\]: oh no, thats terrible :)
RobertT [-\]: although if I did game recording... the players might get annoyed by me clicking their moves before they play them
Balladeer [4d\]: hmmmm, hard to answer for w
slang [4k\]: no he is not
rubicon [4d\]: just connecting seems OK?
rubicon [4d\]: the cut is still annoying
NightShift [6d\]: wang chen not an insei if it's the wang chen i know
ofbusy [-\]: b s9 would be annoying..
NightShift [6d\]: just a really strong amateur
NightShift [6d\]: one of the four amateur "gods" of chinese go
Epithany [6k\]: B N5 looks like prep for B S9
Burton [6k\]: will there be pro commentary on this morning's game brosdcast from this site??
slang [4k\]: I think Wang is the man who will end Mark's winning streak in Congress :)
YZ1509 [4d\]: mostly you'll be needing a Park to stop a Lee
rubicon [4d\]: does something insane like n6 work?
RobertT [-\]: burton, there is live commentary of this game that will start in 20 minutes on the youtube live stream
RobertT [-\]: other than that I don't know
rubicon [4d\]: yeah i think i would n6 here as w
slang [4k\]: Mark never played this slow before :)
RobertT [-\]: ya, his first 2 games he ended with like 30 minutes still on his clock lol
alrobin [9k?\]: he's still away from the board
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;W[mp]C[Burton [6k\]: huuum thanks the problem for me is that i am on an old phone modem
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;B[qj]C[awesome [3k\]: is it making those beepy noises?
Burton [6k\]: as it connects...lol
slang [4k\]: positioning for a kill?
Cool [1k\]: life
RobertT [-\]: seems more like positioning to enclose
rsun [4d\]: w can make life in a pitiful manner
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;W[rj]C[Berimbolo [4k\]: Just got here guys and have a question: is this game currently going on in St. Paul Minnesota?
rsun [4d\]: you bet
Berimbolo [4k\]: Thanks
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;B[pl]C[rubicon [4d\]: looks hard for w
RobertT [-\]: ya, seems this sequence was a mistake for white
YZ1509 [4d\]: black nicely protected his cut
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;W[qi]C[rubicon [4d\]: so, what do you think about n6 instead of n4 ?
]
;B[ql]C[Zalasha [1d\]: leaves more aji
ofbusy [-\]: messy for nothing i d say
rsun [4d\]: w has many 2nd line stones
Burton [6k\]: can b use this wall?
iamnot10k [4k\]: this is not wall yet
kmr [1d\]: Muttley would say white constructed nice 2nd line moyo
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;W[qm]C[rubicon [4d\]: i dont like this for w at all
RobertT [-\]: n6 looks like it would be bad
iamnot10k [4k\]: 2nd line moyo is nearly safe from any invade
rubicon [4d\]: althought i guess no threats
DrKar [12k\]: is it sarcastic??
Burton [6k\]: is b getting more in this sequence?
rubicon [4d\]: robert, how would b answer?
RobertT [-\]: n4
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;B[pi]
;W[qh]C[rubicon [4d\]: then o5 
awesome [3k\]: muttley would never be sarcastic
RobertT [-\]: o6
rubicon [4d\]: p8 atari :)
rubicon [4d\]: and ladder
RobertT [-\]: p8 isnt atari
RobertT [-\]: r6 is open
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;B[ri]C[rubicon [4d\]: oh
rubicon [4d\]: then it would be a terrible move :)
RobertT [-\]: if you p8 then I o2 and p3 dies
awesome [3k\]: seems b getting a wall
rubicon [4d\]: right
Zalasha [1d\]: b r13 incoming?
Zalasha [1d\]: or just push
rsun [4d\]: b may even pull out s12
billlin [9d\]: b will pull out i think
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;W[rk]
;B[rh]C[awesome [3k\]: wow
flobby [-\]: is the game in anyone's favour yet?
rubicon [4d\]: i think b looks good
ofbusy [-\]: w is in serious trouble seems like
rubicon [4d\]: well he can live but so painful
RobertT [-\]: seems s6 was just a mistake, black is good here
Balladeer [4d\]: this looks real bad for w
slang [4k\]: s6 was the culprit
awesome [3k\]: should he just give up the two stones?
Meepy [-\]: ah, so o9 nets p8?
ofbusy [-\]: well w can cut at s8 but he will have to come back to live
ofbusy [-\]: "p8 sry
RobertT [-\]: whites right is 1 move from dying so r12 has no time to run out safely
slang [4k\]: never saw Mark so stressful before :)
rsun [4d\]: w is in deep trouble, worse than dot com bubble
slang [4k\]: did I say Wang is THE man? :)
flobby [-\]: oh no that sounds rough rsun
flobby [-\]: btw is my comment the only one getting moderated =/
Epithany [6k\]: laddre is OK for w - so time to fix right?
YZ1509 [4d\]: you mean to say my shares in dot com are worthless?
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;W[ph]
;B[qg]
;W[oi]
;B[pj]
;W[oh]C[iamnot10k [4k\]: o8?
rubicon [4d\]: i think something further away
indianayk [?\]: o9 is better than 08
flobby [-\]: n9?
iamnot10k [4k\]: is s6 group dead?
rubicon [4d\]: some genius move surely ^^
ofbusy [-\]: just o9 imo
rubicon [4d\]: s6 group is in gote
rubicon [4d\]: but so is b's outside
YZ1509 [4d\]: possibly r6 to check whites respons
Zalasha [1d\]: just kill w heh
rubicon [4d\]: r6 would be bad i think
rubicon [4d\]: i mean, w lives anyway
rubicon [4d\]: so it just takes a liberty for no reason
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;B[nk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: r6 s7 o9  and white must return
]
;W[sp]C[rubicon [4d\]: yeah but
rubicon [4d\]: w must return anyway
flobby [-\]: w returned anyway
RobertT [-\]: r6 doesnt work because o9 no longer nets the p8 cut
YZ1509 [4d\]: r6 t7  white lives but cut is protected
billlin [9d\]: i still think its even
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;B[mi]C[rubicon [4d\]: YZ, w would connect...
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes if white gets to play e3 first
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;W[mg]C[rsun [4d\]: b d6 soon
billlin [9d\]: man..european congress doesnt even have half as many pros participating
hoyuka [1d\]: Mark Lee is extremely strong.
RobertT [-\]: o9 at t7?
YZ1509 [4d\]: r15 s16 still aji for white?
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;B[fo]
;W[cn]
;B[dr]
;W[gp]C[DonValley [7d?\]: is this the same chen wang that won the huang he cup
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;B[fp]
;W[gr]
;B[gq]
;W[hq]
;B[fr]
;W[nj]C[billlin [9d\]: woa
RobertT [-\]: what is the huang he cup?
YZ1509 [4d\]: sheer guts i tell you
ofbusy [-\]: thats a "your shape is bad" move
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;B[mj]
;W[mk]
;B[nl]C[flobby [-\]: yellow river cup
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;W[lk]C[DonValley [7d?\]: bill are you at congress
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;B[kj]C[rubicon [4d\]: he left :/
indianayk [?\]: if b does not retaliate successfully, w has gained an advantage
RobertT [-\]: I think he would be playing right now if he was at congress
ofbusy [-\]: b has to make a second eye eventually so this looks promising for w
hitaus [2k?\]: why is W attacking? B P7 is practically alive
rubicon [4d\]: well, w cant play n7 now so
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;W[mm]C[eS0rven [2k\]: lol
rubicon [4d\]: or... he can :)
rubicon [4d\]: cant b push and cut?
hitaus [2k?\]: or he pretends he can and we'll get to see how we couldn't
rubicon [4d\]: i dont see any other way than n8 m8 m7 now
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;B[ng]C[hitaus [2k?\]: rubicon, and now you see : \]
rubicon [4d\]: :P
tonyho [1d\]: cannot kill this..
rubicon [4d\]: i was thinking w r14 now but
rubicon [4d\]: it doesnt really work
pastlink [?\]: they don't care about fuseki
josekin [?\]: W P14
rubicon [4d\]: but then when b plays p10, w cant connect
rubicon [4d\]: i guess r14 still...
awesome [3k\]: is that this game?
hitaus [2k?\]: the other
awesome [3k\]: ok tx
]
;W[nf]
;B[oj]
;W[qf]C[hoyuka [1d\]: W win.
rubicon [4d\]: i like b more
USGO1 [-\]: Keep checking the AGA website for news and updates, including links to the crosstabs and the live video stream: http://www.usgo.org/
]
;B[rf]
;W[pg]
;B[rg]
;W[ni]
;B[ml]
;W[kk]
;B[mh]
;W[of]
;B[lm]C[hoyuka [1d\]: The next move is ?
hoyuka [1d\]: C 9
hitaus [2k?\]: as B is alive, W got out in sente. How can W win?
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;W[lg]C[hoyuka [1d\]: by invading.
hitaus [2k?\]: hoyuka, invading what? N11 is the only group available for harrassing?
hoyuka [1d\]: oh.. you're right. That group will be bullied severely.
Bauer [1k\]: w wins in the center
]
;B[kh]
;W[jk]
;B[lo]C[hoyuka [1d\]: wow that overplay.
]
;W[ii]C[hoyuka [1d\]: B in great danger.
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;B[kg]
;W[kf]
;B[jf]
;W[ke]
;B[hh]C[dude [?\]: blitzing
]
;W[ih]
;B[ig]
;W[hg]
;B[hf]
;W[gg]
;B[gf]C[hitaus [2k?\]: amazing that B had time to win the game by playing M5
hoyuka [1d\]: B is making w influence better.
USGO1 [-\]: They have been playing for about an hour and a half now. Black has just under an hour left on his clock
]
;W[ie]
;B[fg]
;W[gh]
;B[fh]
;W[gi]
;B[if]C[hoyuka [1d\]: need a magic move
flobby [-\]: how about w?
hoyuka [1d\]: in confusion.
dude [?\]: w obviously around 30 mins
Winkla [7k\]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQPdXdFIm9Q
Herod [-\]: If they each started with two hours, then W would have about 1:30 left
awesome [3k\]: I feel an urge to hug Haylee every time she says "also" or "result" or other words with Ls in them
dude [?\]: it says 90 mins
Herod [-\]: "obviously"
Zalasha [1d\]: c3? or p18
dude [?\]: yes
hitaus [2k?\]: lol, huggel
awesome [3k\]: ror
hoyuka [1d\]: too difficult
]
;W[ff]C[hoyuka [1d\]: wow ~ ~
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;B[fe]
;W[ef]
;B[ee]
;W[dg]C[zenmin [7k\]: "hi everyone! welcome back! how are you doing? is this working?"
]
;B[ge]C[hoyuka [1d\]: what working?
Pillan [1k\]: ahahahah
awesome [3k\]: I think w is too thin to gain a lot from this fight
]
;W[ei]
;B[mc]C[Zalasha [1d\]: e18?
tonyho [1d\]: e18, b j17
YZ1509 [4d\]: game looks promising for black
indianayk [?\]: yes, i like b better at this point
]
;W[nd]
;B[nc]C[awesome [3k\]: e6?
YZ1509 [4d\]: c3 is the point to be on the lowerleft
awesome [3k\]: aha
hoyuka [1d\]: how about c3?
eS0rven [2k\]: Aha ?
]
;W[qc]C[Zahlman [2k\]: c3 seems the biggest in that area, yeah, but b doesn't need it to live, so
]
;B[rd]C[indianayk [?\]: w needs to go back in the top center, but where?
Zahlman [2k\]: "top center"?
indianayk [?\]: top middle
Zahlman [2k\]: ah
Zahlman [2k\]: I guess j17 is the shape point? but that looks really slow for w
YZ1509 [4d\]: entire fight is now whether b h17 kills white or not
Zahlman [2k\]: ah h17 looks painful too
Zalasha [1d\]: dont think so, w looks alive
Zahlman [2k\]: but w has so much connected up that I can't imagine death
YZ1509 [4d\]: h17 h16 j17 g18 k15 k16 j16 h15 g17 f16 f18  for example
Zahlman [2k\]: surely around m14 is an eye, o12 is half an eye...
Zahlman [2k\]: maybe w loses the 3 f17 stones or something
Zahlman [2k\]: anyway, what is w trying to do in the upper right?
Zalasha [1d\]: create aji
Zalasha [1d\]: w wants forcing moves
Zahlman [2k\]: I can only envision net loss of aji by continuing to play there...
]
;W[cg]
;B[dm]
;W[cm]
;B[dl]C[Zalasha [1d\]: i guess i agree better leave the top without reinforcement as w cant make much territory there anyway
indianayk [?\]: d7 by b indicates that b thinks he is ahead
]
;W[cq]
;B[hr]
;W[ir]
;B[gs]C[Zalasha [1d\]: eh no...normal reduction move
]
;W[kn]C[Herod [-\]: doesn't really look like a 'declaration of victory' move
]
;B[ln]
;W[os]
;B[ps]
;W[ko]C[Zalasha [1d\]: looks like difficult mid/end game
]
;B[cl]
;W[cr]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: i count it on 5 points lead for black
YZ1509 [4d\]: c13 was really big move though
Zalasha [1d\]: i think w will have better endgame and win by one point
]
;B[od]C[USGO1 [-\]: white has 11 mins main time left, black has 44
Mitty [1k\]: must be hard for w
theolddan [2d\]: p16 slack compared to l17 style moves
Muttley [3k\]: b is behind b komi on my count
]
;W[je]
;B[me]C[hitaus [2k?\]: Wang Chen stone bowl looks like it contains liquorice ice cream
]
;W[mf]C[theolddan [2d\]: f18 is now left for b
theolddan [2d\]: locally
theolddan [2d\]: h17 and j17 seem gone
]
;B[fk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes h14 is in risk of damezumari
hitaus [2k?\]: J17 gone? isn't there aji towards left?
]
;W[fj]
;B[df]
;W[eg]C[kodomo [3k?\]: now the strike
eS0rven [2k\]: H17
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes black must be readingthat move
YZ1509 [4d\]: g9 is prety big too
]
;B[lb]
;W[kb]C[awesome [3k\]: how can b not play h17?
YZ1509 [4d\]: h17 is most likely gote
awesome [3k\]: I see
Zalasha [1d\]: yeah i was thinking the same thing. then w has some very nice points to play
hitaus [2k?\]: awesome, maintaining sente when you have the lead is an easy way to victory
YZ1509 [4d\]: and black feels g9 to be improtant too
]
;B[hd]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so black takes f16 in sente to be his sequence there
Zalasha [1d\]: w b14 could hurt otherwise
hitaus [2k?\]: what would have been W counter, if B J17 instead of M18? B has H16 as a followup or miai to L18
]
;W[hc]
;B[gb]
;W[gc]
;B[fb]
;W[hb]
;B[dn]
;W[do]
;B[ho]
;W[hp]
;B[go]
;W[io]
;B[is]
;W[jr]C[jlm [1k\]: Some simple extensions and b wins
]
;B[gk]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: yes g9 gote is big, black leads with a small margin
jlm [1k\]: B13?
]
;W[hm]
;B[hj]
;W[hi]
;B[hn]
;W[gm]C[awesome [3k\]: I think w wins
]
;B[fm]
;W[in]C[jlm [1k\]: W must keep sente to have a chance
]
;B[bl]
;W[bn]C[kintoun [1k\]: w winning
oTeao [1k\]: c11
kintoun [1k\]: that's why he just played that move
]
;B[cs]
;W[bs]
;B[ds]
;W[bq]C[oTeao [1k\]: = =
jlm [1k\]: I count b up a little 
]
;B[bg]
;W[bh]
;B[bf]
;W[ci]
;B[he]
;W[id]C[negesog [7k\]: Time left? 
]
;B[dj]C[kintoun [1k\]: b has around 6 points
kintoun [1k\]: *60
]
;W[bj]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: i would hope it's more than six
kintoun [1k\]: sorry typed wrong
]
;B[fd]
;W[eb]
;B[db]
;W[lc]
;B[mb]C[USGO1 [-\]: white is now in byo-yomi
hoyuka [1d\]: w is going to win.
]
;W[qe]
;B[re]C[AppleWatch: L11?
]
;W[nh]C[USGO1 [-\]: black still has 26 mins main time left
AppleWatch: would be interesting
YZ1509 [4d\]: yes b10 is a good move, secures and eye and the points around c12 d12 e12 which i counted to be dame
]
;B[ki]C[AppleWatch: faint, b heard me?
]
;W[js]C[Herod [-\]: AGA komi 7.5
jlm [1k\]: Looks super close
]
;B[di]C[AppleWatch: yes
]
;W[dh]
;B[ej]
;W[gj]
;B[hk]C[kintoun [1k\]: w is winning with komi. i think they both have around 60 points
YZ1509 [4d\]: black has a11 now to make c12 e12 and f11 dame
awesome [3k\]: my count exactly
USGO1 [-\]: white is down to 4 periods
awesome [3k\]: but I suck at counting so it must be wrong
]
;W[ah]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: so a11 is logically big play
YZ1509 [4d\]: a12 ^^
kintoun [1k\]: w plus ~5.5
rsun [4d\]: obviously, the result is b+0.5 +/- 6
indianayk [?\]: this is a close game! wasn't a11 better than h9?
]
;B[ea]
;W[ha]
;B[ka]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: h9 secures j8 to be blacks sente, so that is worth alot
]
;W[ja]
;B[la]
;W[hs]
;B[jb]
;W[ia]
;B[is]
;W[no]
;B[nn]
;W[hs]C[AppleWatch: yeah, w wins, seems
rsun [4d\]: this is a half-pointer, no kidding
]
;B[le]
;W[lf]
;B[is]
;W[ag]
;B[af]
;W[hs]C[xDragon [?\]: Mark lee is too strong
AppleWatch: yeah, why didn't he go for pro career in korea?
]
;B[km]C[nflelg: too weak
xDragon [?\]: Too old
kintoun [1k\]: pros in korea are on another level
awesome [3k\]: too strong
AppleWatch: w can g2 now
kintoun [1k\]: literally
AppleWatch: hmm
AppleWatch: no
xDragon [?\]: He was top class
AppleWatch: i take that back
]
;W[jm]
;B[is]C[awesome [3k\]: d3?
]
;W[sq]
;B[sr]
;W[hs]
;B[il]
;W[im]C[AppleWatch: no, don't make pros mysterious
]
;B[is]
;W[rs]C[rsun [4d\]: pros are not mysterious
]
;B[ss]
;W[hs]C[rsun [4d\]: they're just stronger
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah just nuts
]
;B[ga]
;W[jc]
;B[is]C[AppleWatch: many pros would lose to Mark
]
;W[fl]C[kintoun [1k\]: i doubt it
AppleWatch: you already saw it twice yesterday
AppleWatch: and few times last yr
kintoun [1k\]: all the european pros lost in the samsung cup
jlm [1k\]: F8 mistake?
AppleWatch: no, tha'ts a ko threaten
AppleWatch: ko threat
blacklabel [2d\]: european "pros"
kintoun [1k\]: european pros are generally stronger than american ones
xDragon [?\]: Oh plz
jlm [1k\]: Yes threat but lose a point?
kintoun [1k\]: im sure w knows what he is doing
SideEffect [1k\]: IT IS A TRICK
xDragon [?\]: Pro is a title, quit making it something it isn't
AppleWatch: not really
kintoun [1k\]: true
jlm [1k\]: F6 for b?
AppleWatch: because F6 now can reduce one point
AppleWatch: if black captures
AppleWatch: black is amateur #1 in China
blacklabel [2d\]: #kgs rank discussion, much fun
awesome [3k\]: but then w connects
YZ1509 [4d\]: to complex to compute
awesome [3k\]: lol
AppleWatch: a significant portion of pro players can't say beat him for sure
negesog [7k\]: F6 g8 e8
jlm [1k\]: B F6 yields extra pt in end game?
Herod [-\]: this type of move is really alarming to opponent in byo-yomi
YZ1509 [4d\]: similar like this game, who wins is the man...but is he really stronger winning with a half point?
AppleWatch: not that, they are in close range
rsun [4d\]: also mind that it's not transitive: A beats B, B beats C, but C may beat A
]
;B[gl]
;W[fn]C[blacklabel [2d\]: precise counting to decide g8 or f6
AppleWatch: what I'm trying to say is, they can be pro players, I'm just curious why they didn't choose that
blacklabel [2d\]: #live the pro life 
AppleWatch: what?
YZ1509 [4d\]: i decided not to become pro and earn at least 4 times more 
blacklabel [2d\]: work go vs enjoy go ;)
kintoun [1k\]: b also has 3 more ko threats
awesome [3k\]: yes, this is also the reason why I am not 9p
blacklabel [2d\]: :D
Herod [-\]: Did you also decide not to be pro basketball player and earn 5% of that salary?
blacklabel [2d\]: work for money is dubious
AppleWatch: hmm, no death issue
YZ1509 [4d\]: my shortness prevented to be selected
]
;B[el]
;W[en]C[Genghis [3k\]: I decided to no be a pro basketballer becauase I can't run, jump or shoot
AppleWatch: b h1 now?
bikini [1k\]: game over
peakoil [1d\]: no
]
;B[hs]
;W[em]C[AppleWatch: E7, b has to connect
AppleWatch: one point less
]
;B[jl]C[jlm [1k\]: This can't be right for b
rsun [4d\]: ?????
awesome [3k\]: hm
]
;W[kl]C[Gay [4d\]: b has to sacriface 2 stones
HiWhatsUp [1k\]: yep
truman [2d\]: You can hear Haylee explaining this on stream :)
AppleWatch: ...
Gay [4d\]: um
kintoun [1k\]: .......
peakoil [1d\]: h1 mistake
]
;B[jj]C[DonValley [7d?\]: rip
]
;W[ik]
;B[ij]C[jlm [1k\]: B needed f6
]
;W[hl]C[kintoun [1k\]: noooooo
jlm [1k\]: Game over
awesome [3k\]: great finale
]
;B[aj]
;W[ai]
;B[al]C[AppleWatch: ?
AppleWatch: why didn't b J10?
RobertT [-\]: k10 at j10?
]
;W[ne]C[AppleWatch: but K10?
]
;B[md]C[AppleWatch: yeah
blacklabel [2d\]: j10 was connect and die
RobertT [-\]: it wasnt
kintoun [1k\]: i thought w made the mistake
blacklabel [2d\]: because e16
blacklabel [2d\]: it was
]
;W[ll]
;B[mn]C[rsun [4d\]: w+
flobby [-\]: is there another game today?
jlm [1k\]: F7 just wrong :(
]
;W[cj]C[kintoun [1k\]: j10
kintoun [1k\]: why did b not play it?
]
;B[an]C[jlm [1k\]: G8 I mean
SideEffect [1k\]: d15
rsun [4d\]: j10 is a b stone
]
;W[ao]C[kintoun [1k\]: move 245
kintoun [1k\]: for b
kintoun [1k\]: j10
SideEffect [1k\]: j10 doesnt work D:
]
;B[am]
;W[bo]C[kintoun [1k\]: why not
SideEffect [1k\]: black doesnt have enough libs
SideEffect [1k\]: :o
RobertT [-\]: ya, j10 didnt work
negesog [7k\]: K12big
]
;B[ck]C[AppleWatch: yes, that's very simple, I don't know why they played like this
blacklabel [2d\]: j10 k10 k11 k13 k12 m12 m10 m11 
]
;W[ek]C[blacklabel [2d\]: connect and die
]
;B[dk]
;W[fl]C[blacklabel [2d\]: e16
]
;B[pe]
;W[pf]
;B[fm]C[kodomo [3k?\]: because w throws in at k13 and play m12 then b cant connect because d15
]
;W[oe]
;B[pd]
;W[fl]
;B[sm]
;W[sn]
;B[fm]
;W[eq]
;B[er]C[peakoil [1d\]: so complex!
]
;W[fl]C[blacklabel [2d\]: so if b read g8 and h1 bigger than j8
kintoun [1k\]: oh i see
blacklabel [2d\]: and better than f6
]
;B[rm]
;W[sl]
;B[fm]C[blacklabel [2d\]: good read to resolve ko
peakoil [1d\]: b should have e7 rather than h1
]
;W[fs]
;B[es]
;W[fl]
;B[lj]C[AppleWatch: oh yeah, the big group is tight on liberty
momiji [3d\]: my initial count has it super close
kintoun [1k\]: very close game
AppleWatch: I think w can win without komi...
]
;W[lh]
;B[fm]C[AppleWatch: not close any more
]
;W[jh]
;B[jg]
;W[fl]
;B[il]C[kintoun [1k\]: se says black is winning
]
;W[jl]
;B[fm]C[kmr [1d\]: AGA rules, so cant use SE
rsun [4d\]: se is like the president, it can say anything
blacklabel [2d\]: can use se
kintoun [1k\]: but se looks accurate
kintoun [1k\]: this time
]
;W[si]C[HiWhatsUp [1k\]: SE counts F8 as 1 point and A10 as alive
blacklabel [2d\]: view offline, change rules, use se
HiWhatsUp [1k\]: ...
flobby [-\]: it looks accurate, but it has trouble tallying up the points, kintoun
]
;B[fl]C[awesome [3k\]: why not w a9
flobby [-\]: SE just doesn't work for non-japanese rules
kintoun [1k\]: oh
rsun [4d\]: se has trouble with addition
kintoun [1k\]: didn't know that
YZ1509 [4d\]: yeah "change the rules" white majority of points is called black  wins
]
;W[sh]C[blacklabel [2d\]: se sayss w + bit
]
;B[sj]C[rsun [4d\]: it always forgets where it counted to 
]
;W[sk]
;B[sg]
;W[sj]C[kintoun [1k\]: i was scared for a sec becuase it thought w died
]
;B[ld]
;W[kd]C[HiWhatsUp [1k\]: B + 0.5 ?
YZ1509 [4d\]: always good to be scared, that secures my win more easily
]
;B[qn]
;W[rm]C[rsun [4d\]: a9
]
;B[bk]C[HiWhatsUp [1k\]: ?
]
;W[ak]
;B[dq]C[rsun [4d\]: b trying to get an extra point in ko
Saeki [-\]: he was in the mood for ko
]
;W[ep]C[RobertT [-\]: wrong order maybe
]
;B[eo]C[negesog [7k\]: What is the problem with a9?
]
;W[gn]
;B[aj]C[HiWhatsUp [1k\]: How can this make an extra point ?
]
;W[ol]
;B[ok]C[rsun [4d\]: because dame counts
]
;W[ak]
;B[cp]C[kmr [1d\]: b9 is better when you have more ko threats
]
;W[co]
;B[aj]C[HiWhatsUp [1k\]: Oh right
Zalasha [1d\]: stupid aga rules
]
;W[li]
;B[ji]
;W[ak]
;B[eh]
;W[fi]
;B[aj]C[peakoil [1d\]: w+1.5 pr w+0.5
rsun [4d\]: take dame
momiji [3d\]: w + 1.5?
rsun [4d\]: b7 r9
billlin [9d\]: looks like 0.5?
awesome [3k\]: they are not stupuid, they are intellectually disabled
]
;W[qk]
;B[bm]C[rsun [4d\]: b7 r9 miai, then ko
rsun [4d\]: see?
kmr [1d\]: black still have some ko threats
]
;W[ak]
;B[ib]
;W[ic]C[kintoun [1k\]: i'll never be able to understand these dumb rules
blacklabel [2d\]: hardly rsun :P
]
;B[aj]
;W[de]
;B[dd]C[YZ1509 [4d\]: d15
]
;W[ak]
;B[bp]
;W[ap]
;B[aj]C[rsun [4d\]: it's a skill, not dumb at all
]
;W[]
;B[ak]C[negesog [7k\]: C15
Saeki [-\]: how come aga follows chinese rules and not japanese?
flobby [-\]: they're much better than japanese rules
kintoun [1k\]: what is the record amount of aboservers on a kgs game
]
;W[]TW[ib][jb][jd][fg][ng][og][ch][eh][fh][hh][bi][il][sm][jn][jo][so][bp][cp][jp][kp][aq][iq][jq][kq][lq][mq][nq][ar][br][kr][lr][mr][nr][as][ks][ls][ms][ns]TB[aa][ba][ca][da][fa][ma][na][oa][pa][qa][ra][sa][ab][bb][cb][eb][nb][ob][pb][qb][rb][sb][ac][bc][cc][pc][qc][rc][sc][ad][bd][ed][sd][ae][be][ce][de][se][sf][ek][ol][mm][nm][gr][qr][fs][rs]C[flobby [-\]: over 1000
awesome [3k\]: is is necessary to fill the ko after the pass? 
blacklabel [2d\]: 2kish
YZ1509 [4d\]: 1500
kintoun [1k\]: how are they better than japanese
USGO1 [-\]: they are counting now
largehc [-\]: Over 9000
Saeki [-\]: oh cause they re sponsored by China, I forgot
peakoil [1d\]: Ing?
Herod [-\]: AGA rules try to make japanese and chinese counting match
flobby [-\]: because in japanese rules you have to make definitions of L&D for special groups
RobertT [-\]: good thing they aren't using ing counting or that "grab a hand full of stones" tesuji might have added more points than endgame ;p
flobby [-\]: its a lot less clean
kmr [1d\]: ING rules are even worse than AGA
blacklabel [2d\]: true flobby
awesome [3k\]: w+.5
play234 [-\]: omg, w+0,5?
kintoun [1k\]: i play nuclear tesuji when that happens
rsun [4d\]: Move 214 rsun [4d\]: this is a half-pointer, no kidding
USGO1 [-\]: W+0.5
rsun [4d\]: see?
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks for watching
awesome [3k\]: but can you make it rhyme?
dude [?\]: i thought you were kidding
rsun [4d\]: thx
Nande [1d\]: so he took the 30% 
largehc [-\]: Lucky guess 
stene [8k\]: thx
Nande [1d\]: ;)
kintoun [1k\]: h1 was the losting move
Karla [1k\]: thanks usgo1
flobby [-\]: rsun read 122 moves ahead
Zalasha [1d\]: mark still undefeated eh?
YZ1509 [4d\]: rsun is pro commentator
kintoun [1k\]: was h1 the losing move?
indianayk [?\]: Thank you, USGO1
flobby [-\]: no it was p16
peakoil [1d\]: g8 maybe losing move
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